
Hosted by Maroon 5's founding drummer, therapist, author, and mental health advocate Ryan Dusick, Harder to Breathe is a podcast with honest and vulnerable conversations about the challenges we face and how to work through them.
Each week, Ryan shares his stories and tools for moving past anxiety while also interviewing leading entertainers, musicians, athletes, and entrepreneurs to discuss how they too manage their demons.
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Maroon 5 Drummer Appreciates Fans of 'Songs About Jane'




Ryan and Matt crossed paths at exactly the right time in both of their lives. Maroon 5 was on the cusp of greatness, but they needed someone who could collaborate on a vision for the sound of their first record. Despite being a low paid position, Matt trusted his gut and took the job. Together, their collaboration resulted in an album that would change all of their lives forever.
As good as that was… things weren’t always sunshine and roses. Matt struggled in a major way with anxiety attacks, as well as finding time in his busy schedule to be a good father for his autistic son. Finding a healthy mental state and a sustainable work-life balance is hard for anyone, but when you’re trying to produce a record for a group of young “headstrong” men like the band members of early Maroon 5, it can feel almost impossible.
Undoubtedly this is a can’t miss episode of the “Harder to Breathe” Podcast. No matter your interest, whether in music, mental health, growth, therapy, or all of the above, you’ll find something to love in this fascinating and vulnerable conversation.
0:00:00 Introduction & Duck’s New Family Member
0:01:55 Ryan’s New Year & Navigating OCD Tendencies
0:12:39 Writing our own Diss Track (watch out Joe Rogan)
0:14:12 Today’s Guest: Matt Wallace
0:16:06 Matt Wallace Joins the Podcast & Relives his History with Maroon 5
0:26:45 Matt’s First Impressions of Each Band Member
0:29:26 Attitude Regrets & Creative Tension
0:34:05 Compromise vs. Standing Firm
0:36:28 Recounting A Tense Moment During Production & Apologies
0:42:03 Prioritizing Self-Care
0:45:15 Managing Panic Attacks & Anxiety
0:52:45 The Upside & Growth on the Other Side
0:55:03 Learning Patience Through an Autistic Child
0:59:12 Becoming a Better Parent Through Experience
1:04:12 Benefitting From Work Relationships
1:06:14 Matt’s Deep Appreciation for Ryan’s Story & Work
1:09:28 The Gifts That Came From the Struggle
1:13:14 “This Too Shall Pass”
1:17:12 Finding the Part of You that’s Worth Saving
1:20:04 Matt’s Solutions to Anxiety in Present Day
1:21:39 What’s Going On Now & Musical Connection
1:28:56 Musician Based Therapy
1:31:55 Do You Need Pain to Create Great Art?
1:34:36 Wrap Up & Conclusion
More on Matt Wallace:
Official Website: https://www.wallacematt.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wizardwallace/
Youtube Studio Link: https://www.youtube.com/user/liveatstudiodelux
Ready to Dive Deeper?:
https://www.ryandusick.com/
BenBella Books Author Page - https://benbellabooks.com/authors/dusick-ryan/
Amazon Book Page - https://www.amazon.com/Harder-Breathe-Memoir-Finding-Recovery/dp/1637742339/
WWSG Speaker Page - https://wwsg.com/speakers/ryan-dusick/
Psychology Today Therapist Profile - https://www.psychologytoday.com/profile/937599
Stay Up to Date on the Podcast: @hardertobreathepodcast
Follow Ryan on Social Media:
IG - @ryan_michael_dusick
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-dusick-26460894/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/ryan.m.dusick
Facebook Author Page - https://www.facebook.com/RyanMichaelDusick/
X / Twitter - @DusickRyan
Follow Duck on Social Media:
IG - @Newyorkduck
X / Twitter - @DuckMaillard
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Chris is an all-or-nothing guy, and he wears that designation proudly. He carries that passion and energy in every aspect of his life, whether in his relationships or in his business… and it’s absolutely contagious.
There is much more to Chris than just his energy and enthusiasm, however. Throughout their conversation, Ryan and Duck are able to get Chris to open up about his rocky relationship with his Dad, as well as his struggles growing up with Crohn's Disease. Despite the difficulties of his past, Chris will be the first to tell you that the lessons he’s learned have shaped him into who he is today.
It’s another really fun, yet deep and thought provoking conversation on the “Harder to Breathe” Podcast. Breaking into vulnerable topics with successful people in the realm of sales can sometimes prove challenging, but Chris is a fantastic example that it IS possible to be a great business person AND be truthful, passionate, honest, and forthcoming as well.
VIDEO TIME CODES
0:00:00 Introduction & Duck’s Fashion Choices
0:00:57 Thanksgiving Emotions
0:07:54 Today’s Guest: Chris Panagiotu
0:10:21 Chris Joins the Podcast & Shares his History with Ryan
0:17:52 Cutting Out the Bullshit
0:20:55 Resilience & Handling Crohn's Disease
0:25:43 Chris’s Rocky Relationship with his Dad
0:29:55 Authentically Helpful
0:32:50 Creating Business Loyalty
0:38:22 “Life is a Choice”
0:44:23 Blocking Out Trauma
0:49:21 The Emotions Chris was Escaping
0:52:45 Mental Models
0:55:43 Letting Go of Resentment & Choosing Forgiveness
1:01:46 “The Best Revenge is a Life Well Lived”
1:07:42 Looking Back on Childhood
1:10:57 Yearly New Year’s Resolutions
1:16:54 Compounding Success
1:19:07 Ryan’s Biggest Regret
1:21:13 Wrap Up & Conclusion
More on Chris Panagiotu:
Podcast Website: https://capitalizepodcast.com/
Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/capincapitalize/
Book Link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B5FG9FZY
Business Website: http://www.capitalizeyourfinances.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-panagiotu-cfp%C2%AE-crps%C2%AE-13a573176
Ready to Dive Deeper?:
https://www.ryandusick.com/
BenBella Books Author Page - https://benbellabooks.com/authors/dusick-ryan/
Amazon Book Page - https://www.amazon.com/Harder-Breathe-Memoir-Finding-Recovery/dp/1637742339/
WWSG Speaker Page - https://wwsg.com/speakers/ryan-dusick/
Psychology Today Therapist Profile - https://www.psychologytoday.com/profile/937599
Stay Up to Date on the Podcast: @hardertobreathepodcast
Follow Ryan on Social Media:
IG - @ryan_michael_dusick
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-dusick-ma-amft-26460894/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/ryan.m.dusick
Facebook Author Page - https://www.facebook.com/RyanMichaelDusick/
X / Twitter - @DusickRyan
Follow Duck on Social Media:
IG - @Newyorkduck
X / Twitter - @DuckMaillard
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About the Host 
As the former founder of Maroon 5, Ryan had an amazing start to his music career that changed his life. But the stress of being that high of a performer started to break him down to the point that he had to walk away from his dream life. It was at the bottom that he realized that he had to change and through treatment, he began to rebuild his life one brick at a time. Ryan embraced his life experience and decided to become a therapist where he now specializes in helping high performers under enormous stress manage it and stay on a solid path.